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Enterprising Investor

Formerly Guiding Assets, Enterprising Investor is the flagship podcast of CFA Institute and the definitive program for the investment management industry. As stewards of the investment industry, Guiding Assets will feature intimate conversations with some of the most influential people from the world of finance about the topics that matter most to investment professionals. The show will also share crucial insights and best practices to help guide investors to make smart, ethical decisions. Enterprising Investor will continue to help build a better world for investors.

Host: Mike Wallberg, CFA

Producer: Mitchell Forst 

Jun 30, 2021

Sébastien Page, CFA, head of the Global Multi-Asset division at T. Rowe Price and author of “Beyond Diversification,” discusses the importance of asset allocation and diversification, why investors should go beyond diversification, and whether the 60/40 portfolio is dead.

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Episode Breakdown:
1:43 Why Sébastien decided to write the book, “Beyond Diversification”
4:44 The motivation behind giving all proceeds from the book to the T. Rowe Price Foundation
5:45 Key themes that both advisors and investors can learn from the book
7:33 Why should investors go beyond diversification, and what wrong with diversification?
10:56 How can investors determine stock-bond mix?
14:13 Is the 60/40 portfolio alive or dead?
22:39 Are we paying enough attention to fat tails?
26:36 Sébastien’s tactical views on capital markets?
32:01 Sébastien’s LinkedIn view of teaching his daughter the basics of investing
34:40 Closing questions:
One positive, long-lasting change that Sébastien hopes to see as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic
One item Sébastien would take with him on a long-duration space flight
Flight vs. invisibility? Which do you pick, and what do you do with your superpower?
Related articles and links:
Book: Beyond Diversification
LinkedIn post
Sébastien’s LinkedIn video with his daughter
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