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Formerly Guiding Assets, Enterprising Investor is the flagship podcast of CFA Institute and the definitive program for the investment management industry. As stewards of the investment industry, Guiding Assets will feature intimate conversations with some of the most influential people from the world of finance about the topics that matter most to investment professionals. The show will also share crucial insights and best practices to help guide investors to make smart, ethical decisions. Enterprising Investor will continue to help build a better world for investors.

Host: Mike Wallberg, CFA

Producer: Mitchell Forst 

Apr 19, 2023

Dive deep into the world of asset allocation with Anubhuti Gupta, CFA, CIPM, a senior principal consultant for Mercer's Wealth business in Singapore. We discuss the impact of inflation on portfolios and how investors can structure them for resilience amidst inflationary pressures. We also explore the challenges of diversification in 2022 and the importance of private markets in portfolio allocation. Additionally, we touch on the benefits of investing governance, the role of Outsourced Chief Investment Officer (OCIO) providers, and the importance of keeping an open mind throughout our investment careers. Join us in this insightful conversation as we navigate the ever-changing landscape of investing and asset allocation.


(0:00:03) - Asset Allocation in Inflation
(0:09:26) - Diversifying Portfolios in an Unpredictable Market
(0:20:02) - Benefits of Investing Governance
(0:23:43) - Keeping an Open Mind

Chapter Summaries:

(0:00:03) - Asset Allocation in Inflation (9 Minutes)
We discuss the impact of inflation on portfolios and how investors can structure their portfolios for resilience in the face of inflationary pressures. Anubhuti highlights the importance of focusing on energy efficiency, security, infrastructure, technology, and materials to facilitate the transition. We also delve into the potential for value stocks to outperform in the current market environment, as growth equities may struggle to recover to previous market highs'

(0:09:26) - Diversifying Portfolios in an Unpredictable Market (11 Minutes)
Diving into the challenges of diversification in 2022, we discuss the risks associated with relying on traditional strategies like the 60/40 portfolio. With equities and bonds producing negative results simultaneously for the first time in many investors' careers, it is essential to consider more dynamic approaches, such as incorporating specialist downside risk mitigation strategies or using real assets. We also touch on the importance of private markets in portfolio allocation, emphasizing their continued relevance for those with long horizons and a desire for innovation. However, it is crucial to reassess portfolio risk and exposure levels in the context of both public and private markets.

(0:20:02) - Benefits of Investing Governance (4 Minutes)
As we examine the disconnect between private real estate and REITs, we consider the potential opportunities that may arise when valuations for private real estate funds align with reality. We stress the importance of maintaining a long-term view and avoiding short-term panic-driven decisions that may be detrimental to the portfolio. Discussing governance and the outsource CIO (OCIO) model, we highlight the benefits of working hand in hand with asset allocators to manage assets as opposed to in-house management. This approach allows for streamlined decision-making processes and the ability to take advantage of market dislocations and emerging opportunities.

(0:23:43) - Keeping an Open Mind (3 Minutes)
In this conversation, we delve into the concept of Outsourced Chief Investment Officer (OCIO) providers and their role in easing the pain points for asset allocators and investment teams. By outsourcing certain aspects of the value chain to OCIO providers, entities can focus on high-value activities where they excel. Additionally, we share some personal insights from Anubhuti Gupta's career journey, emphasizing the importance of keeping an open mind for both young and seasoned professionals in the industry.